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Ideas on how to enhance holding back on s/s couples?

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Submitted by virtual on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 09:03. suggestions
Being inspired by Couples where both like to hold back? and Failure and orgasm I'd like to discuss a bit more about ideas on how to enhance holding back in a couple where both members like being controlled.
Chastity devices, keys being posted to themselves, prices won, self bondage, that idea about being bound and a vibrating device connected to sound output of movie clips from hogtied.com, orgasms to be had as a reward or as a punishment, sessions to be had as a reward or as a punishment, this sort of things, to which I lack a hands on experience.
And your opinion about genital stimulation whether from one's self or from the other, punishment? allowed? not allowed? never allowed?
The ideas I already gave in the inspiring topics are: A ruined orgasm (a rgasm) as a punishment (and I mean not the slow drain of prostate fluid without contractions, I mean a full contractions and stuff orgasm in which the originating stimulation stops just after it has already started).
And the kids college fund, or fund for a new house (something non luxury, not a new car so to speak) that you both are investing in or planning to. Then add the rule: 5000$ for each orgasm will be given to the one needing it so bad to pay the money. And the orgasm will then be delivered in close to ideal setup by the partner, which is no problem I'd assume. And 10000$ as a fine for each orgasm not previously asked for.
Now, erotic dreams are powerful from what I remember and from what I have read, whether you can reach release from your body or not. What do you think about causing prostate fluids to be released in a sleeping orgasm (stimulated every month by the partner, but with the need of sleeping pills or similar in order for sleep to continue and hopefully no sensation and reminiscence of it for the one being released. This compared to a rgasm, orgasm as a reward or punishment, slow draining of the prostate without pelvic contractions, and of course prostate milking?
I thought of sleeping orgasm as the one experiencing it, probably already in chastity from a long time will be noticing no difference at all compared to a wet dream, and might not even be told about it? Has anyone experimented this?
I hope I don't get the total silence as in my first blog ever Smiling
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Wood's avatar

hello darkness

Submitted by Wood on Sun, 11/04/2007 - 03:12.
This site is mainly focused on female denial....so although single sub guys are welcome here (as far as I'm concerned)...you're unlikely to get much feedback.

I've never had a wet dream, but the times I've almost had a wet dream have been quite fun....so I don't think orgasm while sleeping is really as low reward as milking
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sleepy sex

Submitted by orca on Sun, 11/04/2007 - 07:11.
The boyfriend and I often enjoy "passive" intercourse, where we'll just lay together for as long as possible, him inside me but with little or no movement. Even this can make for very exquisite sensations, when we both haven't cum for a long time. Maybe I should post a blog about that...

Anyway, on several occasions, after an hour or two in bed we've fallen asleep, still coupled. Last time it was my bf; I was still awake. Deciding to have some fun, I'd give him a Kegel squeeze or two ever so often, when he started to go soft. He eventually woke up, on the very edge of orgasm, and we had to *carefully* disengage. Next day, after some prodding he told what he remembered of some hot, if slightly disturbing, erotic dreams, brought on by my Kegel practice Smiling

So far, trying to do the same again hasn't worked. Maybe one day when we're particularly tired...

probably not quite what you're thinking of.

P.S. "s/s couples"? Same-sex?
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Thank you for answering

Submitted by virtual on Mon, 11/05/2007 - 07:00.
The purpose of sleepy orgasm IMO is for the one being released during sleep not to know he ever had an orgasm, and still eject dangerous fluids. I'm not thinking about pleasing or not, rewarding or not. Every tease, every embrace, everything is pleasing and rewarding. I just want it to be like that after any release for any purpose.
One reason I can think of is being able to hold back longer. You know, after some time one might edge from the slightest touch, and, a second, accidental stroke might end all the fun, a rgasm or a full One but still a full conscious release.
The s/s was meant to be as 2 people finding belonging to each other, but wanting to be sub (belonging Smiling ) instead of Dom. Anyway I should have made it clear.
I'm still searching a way to expel stagnant liquid without the holder ever needing to know. That's why I thought of sleeping pills Smiling Thank you for sharing your experience. Have a nice day.
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virtual's avatar

New ideas

Submitted by virtual on Mon, 11/05/2007 - 08:08.
= Old ideas
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orca's avatar

wet dream, similar aftereffects

Submitted by orca on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 06:38.
My boy had a wet dream once last year. It was not long after we'd started making love without orgasm, and his body probably hadn't adjusted enough. Also, for him it had been over three weeks, which seems to be too long for males ... at least my particular male Smiling

Apart from the curiosity value, this was disappointment for both of us. He didn't feel much pleasure (said it was far *less* intense than the 'edge' feelings during our sex-without-orgasm), just a sense of release, and I couldn't enjoy making him cum, but he still had the usual post-orgasmic let-down / hangover, and wasn't feeling very affectionate the next day, or the day after - a bit snippy and standoff-ish, as I recall. Sex the next day wasn't good.

Between that, and having to clean the mess off my camisole, we decided that these were, ah, best avoided..

(Not having much interest in anal play, we haven't tried the "milking" idea.)
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virtual's avatar

Thank you for your wet dream comment

Submitted by virtual on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 08:19.
I really appreciate your experience.
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