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Failure and orgasm

Submitted by mongostoy on Sun, 10/28/2007 - 12:41. general erotica | experience
Several months ago, MongoJerry posted that we were trying a new experiment in power exchange, in part inspired by Kris Westergaard, of pulling in weight loss and exercise into our own program. I was supposed to post about it as well, but very unsubmissively never got around to it. I was only sporadically looking at this site at the time and did not go back and look at those posts this morning, but I seem to recall that someone posted reservations about bringing such a real life and sensitive issue into the bedroom. Maybe no one did, and I only recall it because someone should have! Smiling

In any case, I believe MJ responded quite clearly that we had long been very careful about that, and were only trying it now because I really wanted to and because our power exchange was maturing and deepening. I did want to. I find that sometimes an external will power really enhances my own, and weight control is among my many shortcomings.

Unfortunately it has been a failure thus far, but in very interesting ways. I have not become resentful on MJ for intruding on me (and in the past I was very sensitive to even a hint of "maybe you shouldn't eat that"). The problem is that I went to sleep and MJ is an extremely busy and not full disciplined dominant. It worked really well for about three weeks, and then I stopped exercising and only sporadically careful in my eating and MJ did not demand it on a daily basis. While the real prize has been withheld--I haven't had a real orgasm since the first week of July--I haven't overly missed it either and have been far less interested in sex than I was over the last few years (even allowing for usual waxing and waning of interest over that time.)

At this point, MJ has had it. He is ready to throw it off. I am unfairly withholding "his" orgasms my not complying with the program and he wants to wake me up. I however, don't want to come until I have at least lost the initial goal of 5 pounds (which was supposed to take about a month, two at the most.)

We've agreed on a last gasp effort. Starting today, I have to produce daily food journals and exercise journals on demand, to show that I am making a true effort. If he asks for them and they don't exist the only punishment will be that he can make me come anyway. Full orgasm and my own feeling of failure. How's that for twisted?
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The new twist

Submitted by Mongojerry_2 on Tue, 10/30/2007 - 15:56.
You explained it well except for the part about me not being "fully disciplined" (shocked I am, just shocked!).

Lose weight and cum as your reward. Fail to lose weight and cum anyway as your punishment. Some might see it as twisted I suppose. Smiling

You are to prepare yourself for this orgasm. Perhaps it will help with your focus and motivation. Starting today, you are to masturbate for exactly 10 minutes every day (include the time on your exercise journal and e-mail me within 15 minutes), thinking about how it will feel to finally cum--either in success or in failure.

Additionally, do not forget--when you are on the elliptical, the SmartBalls are to be inserted.
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Weight Loss

Submitted by Amy on Fri, 11/02/2007 - 21:28.
The whole weight loss thing has always been a mystery to me. I would love to lose a bit myself if I knew how, but dieting seems to be a temporary solution that most always results in the person eventually weighing more after a few years. I haven't been motivated enough to give it a real try, and I don't like the odds of success.

I love reading your thoughts about using orgasm control as a means of non-sexual behavior modification. For me, though, I can only imaging that losing five pounds is too remote a goal. The cause and effect to specific behavior is not direct enough. On the other hand, being required to provide eating and exercise logs to be evaluated each week could be really effective. I think I could find the will power to pass by the chocolate chip cookie if I knew that eating it would cost me an orgasm. Likewise on the temptation to skip my exercises. This would be good, also, because healthy eating and exercise are worthy goals whether or not they result in weight loss. They are perhaps more important than weight loss in terms of overall health.

Being made to orgasm as a punishment is indeed twisted but I can certainly relate to that. This is especially true if it were done without any affection and with the clear understanding that is was a punishment, and if immediately after I was verbally scolded and then left alone. I am not sure exactly how I would react, but likely it would be quite upsetting and a rather effective punishment.

Anyway, I wish you luck toy, and enjoy reading about your experiences. For now all I can contribute is speculation on what it might be like for me. Perhaps I should try some of these ideas and report back on how it actually works for me. I am still a bit uneasy about going down this path, though.
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Well, I like the idea of usin

Submitted by virtual on Sat, 11/03/2007 - 07:37.
Well, I like the idea of using orgasm itself as a punishment, but from my emulation of the world around me in my brain I'd say it's not a good idea that no difference should be made between the orgasm as a reward and the one as a punishment you said.
Maybe a ruined orgasm of those GND always talks about?
Anyway I'm certainly going to propose this to my better half. Thank you and everybody around here for all the ideas.
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